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- Subject: Junk Mail FAQ
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-
- How to Get Less Junk Mail
-
- Are you getting unsolicited mail that's more trouble than it's worth? Here
- are some things you can do that will give you more control of what comes into
- your home. I don't know of anything you can do that will stop the influx
- immediately, short of moving and not telling anyone (including creditors,
- employer, insurers, old friends, and especially the Post Office). If you're
- willing to start slow and spend some time on it, you can slowly cut down the
- amount of junk mail you get.
-
- Contents
- Introduction
- Some simple actions that may help a lot
- Handling companies that sell lists
- How to track the spread of your name
- Asking to be removed from a list
- Actions that won't help
-
- Questions and Answers
- Q1. How do I contact the big companies that sell lists?
- Q2. Who else can I get to help me stop the junk mail?
- Q3. How do I stop the loose unaddressed flyers I get twice a week?
-
- Dealing with specific types of organizations
- mail-order catalogues
- Memberships in organizations
- phone book listing
- warranties/product registration cards
- 800/900 number services
- contests (You may already be a winner!)
- credit cards
- Change of Address notices
-
-
- The first thing to realize is that there are several different sources of
- junk mail, and there are different things you have to do for each of them.
- There are some broad-band tools you can use to stop a lot of junk mail at
- once, but these miss some important categories. For the rest, until you
- figure out why you got a particular piece of mail, you can't take the action
- that will prevent its recurrence. It's important to realize that some
- companies maintain their own lists, while other companies buy the lists they
- mail to. In the first case, you have to talk to the company that is sending
- the mail, and in the second, you have to talk to whoever they bought your
- name from.
-
- Some simple actions that may help a lot
-
- One approach attempts to stop all the unsolicited mail at once. The good
- part of this approach is that it's not much work, the drawback is that you
- may stop receiving some mail that you wanted, but were only getting as a
- side-effect of something else. There are several different organizations you
- can contact, including the Direct Marketing Association, an organization of
- direct mailers. [see Q1.] and a few companies that charge a fee for
- individually contacting companies that are sending you mail. [See Q2.]
-
- Among the companies that have their own lists are local merchants who like to
- send out periodic reminders, and the national firms that send out twice
- weekly piles of advertising to all postal patrons, The two big companies in
- this latter business are ADVO ("Mailbox Values") and Harte Hanks
- ("Potpourri"). [See Q3 for how to deal with these two.] You won't be able
- to tell which pieces are coming from mailers who have you directly on their
- lists until you've reduced your junk mail to a level that makes it worthwhile
- to individually call the sources of the mail you get.
-
-
- Companies that sell lists
-
- Dealing with re-sold lists is a long process. You have to find out who's
- selling your name, and ask them to stop. There are two possible approaches
- to tracking down the companies that are selling your name. You can either
- ask the companies that are sending you the mail, or you can track the spread
- of your name and address.
-
- If you're not getting much junk mail, you can easily call the companies that
- sent you something and ask where they got your name. As long as you're
- polite, the people in the direct mail department are quite willing to tell
- you this. Often they will tell you the names of the two or three places from
- whom they bought lists in the last month, and you can figure out which one
- knows about you. Other times if you read them the codes on the mailing
- label, they can tell you exactly who it was.
-
- You can also head off the problem entirely by always telling organizations
- which you deal with through the mail that you don't want them selling your
- name. You can do this with a note when you order something or send your
- dues, or you can send them a separate note or call their national office on
- the phone.
-
-
- How to track the spread of your name
-
- If you're getting a fair amount of junk mail, it's probably easier to start
- by adding markers to the address used by correspondents you want to continue
- to receive mail from. A simple trick you can use is to modify your name in
- some way that you keep track of. When you receive something unsolicited in
- the mail, you check your list and see where they got your address.
-
- I use different middle initials with different organizations, but you could
- also change how you spell your first or last name, or add an apartment number
- to your address (or add a superfluous letter to your already-numbered
- apartment). If you are dealing with a professional organization, you might
- add a title, or a department name.
-
-
- Asking to be removed from a list
-
- Once you've identified a particular company and want them to remove you from
- their list, (either the one they mail to directly, or the one they sell)
- there are a few common steps to take. Start by calling customer service and
- tell them you want to stop getting mail. Then follow up by keeping track of
- mail you get from them, or mail addressed to the name you only use with them.
-
- When you call again in a few weeks or a month (depending on how long they
- said it would take), you want to be able to tell them what in particular you
- received, and when, so they can figure out which list they missed the first
- time. In all cases, be polite, don't refer to "junk mail" unless the clerk
- wants to know why you care, and be persistent. If the person you are talking
- to doesn't know what to do, ask to speak to their supervisor, and be willing
- to patiently explain your predicament again.
-
-
- Tactics that won't help
-
- I assume that your objective is to receive less mail. You might also be
- interested in encouraging mailers to send junk mail less often. The
- following are tactics that won't succeed at either of these goals, but (if
- you're vindictive) might make you feel better.
-
- Using Business Reply Envelopes to complain will usually not get the attention
- of the mailing company. If you attach them to a brick or overfill the
- envelope, the post office will discard them. If you send them back empty, or
- with a complaint about the catalogue you didn't want, they'll be discarded by
- the people who open the envelopes. The mail is usually opened by people who
- only get paid for actual orders they pass on to the company, so they don't
- often bother to relay complaints or count the number of replies that didn't
- contain orders.
-
- Your use of the BRE will cost them money, but they'll never notice it, so
- this won't cause them to change the way they do business. (Unless the number
- of people sending empty BRE's becomes a substantial fraction of the number
- sending orders. This might lower the effectiveness enough that they'd stop
- doing mail order. Not likely.)
-
- If you want the company to pay attention, get in touch with their customer
- service people. Most of the time, the company never even saw your name, so
- they can't do much to keep you from getting future ads. They buy lists from
- other companies, and those other companies are the ones you need to get in
- touch with. They might be interested if you were offended by their ad, but
- otherwise they'll just point out that many people order merchandise from them
- in response to the mailing. If you want to stop getting the mail, find out
- who they buy names from, and get those people to stop selling your name.
-
-
-
- Q1. How do I contact the big companies that sell lists?
-
- A1. The best place to start is the Direct Marketing Association. Their
- member organizations are some of the direct mailers who send the stuff. Call
- their Mail Preference Service at their unlisted number (212)768-7277 and ask
- to be added to their Suppression File. Tell them you'll wait while they type
- in your address (so they don't lose the piece of paper with your address.)
- Call again in a week and ask if your name is listed. Their mailing address
- (11 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10163-3861, or PO Box 9008, Farmingdale NY |
- 11735-9099) also provides effective service. |
-
- Other big list resellers include:
-
- R. L. Polk & Company
- List Compilation and Development
- 6400 Monroe Boulevard
- Taylor, MI 48180-1814
-
- Donnelley Marketing Inc.
- Data Base operations
- 1235 N Avenue
- Nevada, IA 50201-1419;
-
- Metromail Corp.
- List Maintenance
- 901 W. Bond
- Lincoln, NE 68521;
-
- Database America
- Compilation Department
- 100 Paragon Drive
- Montvale, NJ 07645-0419
-
- Dunn & Bradstreet
- Customer Service
- 899 Eaton Avenue
- Bethlehem, PA 18025
-
- Q2. Who else can help me stop getting junk mail?
-
- A2. Stop Junk Mail Association
- 3020 Bridgeway #150
- Sausalito, CA 94965
- (800)827-5549
-
- St. Paul Neighborhood Energy Consortium |
- 475 North Cleveland Avenue #100 |
- St. Paul, MN 55104-5051 |
- (ask for their "junk mail reduction kit." It contains |
- pre-addressed postcards to direct marketers, "take me off |
- your list" postcards, and stickers saying "do not rent, |
- sell, trade or give away my name". $9 w/stamps, $6 w/o) |
-
- [There are more, send me addresses of any you know. I haven't dealt with any |
- of them, so buyer beware!] |
-
- Q3. How do I stop the loose unaddressed flyers I get twice a week?
-
- A3. There are two different companies: ADVO ("Mailbox Values") and Harte
- Hanks ("Potpourri") that send these out in different areas around the US. The
- advertising is sent as a "supplement" to an address card which has the
- postage-paid notice on it.
-
- These bundles are sent to every address in the affected areas, and it takes
- two separate actions to stop it. First you have to get ADVO or Hart Hanks to
- stop printing the address card, and only then can you get your mail carrier
- to stop delivering the advertising.
-
- Both ADVO and Harte Hanks have local offices scattered around the country,
- and the best way to get off their list is to talk to the local office. The
- cards usually have the local phone number on them, or at least an address
- (call directory assistance.) Ask for the circulation department, and call
- back in a week to check that they really did remove your address. Be
- prepared to wait 8 weeks for the mail to stop. They'll occasionally
- "accidentally" send out another card, but it's easier to stop them the second
- time.
-
- Your postal carrier "knows" that everyone on the route is supposed to get
- one, so she'll keep delivering them even if it looks like the address card is
- lost. It's against the law for them to deliver unaddressed mail, so it only
- takes a phone call to the supervisor at the local post office to convince the
- carrier to stop. There will occasionally be a mistake after that (when
- there's a substitute or new carrier) but it doesn't take very many calls to
- convince the supervisor you really mean it.
-
- There's no need to threaten lawsuits or anything, just tell them you received
- unaddressed mail. With ADVO and Potpourri, you may have to point out that
- you found out how to get off the lists before they understand, but the postal
- supervisors do know what the law says.
-
-
- Dealing with specific types of organizations
-
- Here's a list of some of the kinds of organizations that direct marketers buy
- names from and what you can do about each.
-
- Mail-Order Catalogues
- Use a distinct address with each catalogue you order from. Your name will
- occasionally be sold to someone you don't want to hear from, and you have to
- know where they got your name to make it stop. When you find that a
- catalogue resells your name to places you don't like, ask them to add your
- name to their suppression list. Most don't have any trouble with this
- request.
-
- One thing to be careful about: many will "correct" your name and address from
- your checks, so you have to continually make sure that they're using the
- name/address you chose for them. I have my checks printed without name or
- address so I can choose what each organization sees. You're always supposed
- to write down the account number anyway.
-
- Memberships In Organizations
- (charitable, political, religious, professional, etc.)
- Just like mail-order catalogues; use a distinct address for each. Many will
- sell your name without warning.
-
- Phone Book Listing
- Many organizations build their address lists from telephone directories. In
- addition, these lists can be cross-matched with others and occasionally
- they'll make inferences based on your listing. (sex from first name,
- ethnicity from last name, profession from title, etc.) You can get an
- unlisted number, but there are directories that include those listings, they
- just cost more. A cheaper way to have an unlisted number is to pick a fake
- name for the directory. Any phone calls or mail for that name you can be
- sure are junk.
-
- Warranties/Product Registration Cards
- You are seldom required to send in registration cards in order to be covered
- by a warranty. Most of these cards are send to the National Demographics and
- Lifestyles Company which compiles direct mail lists of people based on the
- life-style, family income, and buying habits that people describe on the
- cards. Write to them at:
-
- National Demographics and Lifestyles Company
- List Order Department
- 1621 18th St.
- Suite 300
- Denver, CO 80202
-
- 800/900 Number Services
- 800 and 900 number services can easily find out your name and address when
- you call (they use reverse directories indexed by your phone number.) Many
- of them compile and sell lists of people who are interested in their product
- or watch their TV show. Make your 800-number phone calls during a break at
- work. Don't call 900-number services unless you don't mind your name
- appearing on lists of people who use the particular service.
-
- Contests (You May Already Be A Winner!)
- There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch! There are some real contests that
- give out real money, but not many, and the odds are never very good. Many
- things advertised as contests these days are just fishing expeditions for
- names to add to mailing lists. Others are serious fraud. Never give out
- credit card numbers over the phone unless you're positive the company you're
- calling is reputable.
-
- Credit Cards
- Some credit card companies sell lists of customers to direct mailers. They
- know a lot about your lifestyle: what you buy, where you travel, and how much
- you spend. Banks don't seem to use the same information from your checks, so
- if you're looking for a little more privacy...
-
- Birth Certificates, Marriage Licenses, Property Records
- You can't do much about these except use a variant spelling and track down
- each use of the name. Most of the list compilers are willing to drop your
- name if you ask.
-
- Credit Bureaus
- Two of the major credit bureaus still sell lists based on their databases.
- You can contact them at:
-
- Trans Union
- 555 W. Adams St.
- 8th Floor
- Chicago, IL 60661
-
- TRW
- Target Marketing Services Division
- Mail Preference Service
- 901 N. International Parkway
- Suite 191
- Richardson TX 75081
-
-
- Change of Address notices
-
- The post office sells the names and addresses from its Change of Address
- cards. They even encourage bulk mailers to use the data so there will be
- fewer miss-addressed letters. If you're having trouble dealing with the junk
- and want to stop getting it, contact all your correspondents individually and
- don't fill out the Post office's form.
-
- --
- Chris Hibbert protecting privacy in the computer age is
- hibbert@netcom.com like trying to change a tire on a moving car.
-
-